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	<title>Comments on: Why was Robin van Persie&#8217;s goal disallowed?</title>
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		<title>By: Johnnie</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-29436</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL wat an argument. Obviously if the rule allows that, every player is gonna do that! Remember, there is a risk to SERIOUSLY HURT the goalkeeper!!!! 

Anyway, I just realised how immature Van Persie is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL wat an argument. Obviously if the rule allows that, every player is gonna do that! Remember, there is a risk to SERIOUSLY HURT the goalkeeper!!!! </p>
<p>Anyway, I just realised how immature Van Persie is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: stewie</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-29140</link>
		<dc:creator>stewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&amp; btw none of the goals that you thought were similar weret because the keeper gave up possesion of the ball by throwing it on the ground</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&amp; btw none of the goals that you thought were similar weret because the keeper gave up possesion of the ball by throwing it on the ground</p>
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		<title>By: stewie</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-29137</link>
		<dc:creator>stewie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 23:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>when the keeper drops the ball to punt it its still considered as control over the ball. its the same as if van persie had kicked the ball out of the keepers hands when he was on the ground. obviously thats why the goal was taken back</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when the keeper drops the ball to punt it its still considered as control over the ball. its the same as if van persie had kicked the ball out of the keepers hands when he was on the ground. obviously thats why the goal was taken back</p>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-29038</link>
		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:29:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very interesting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very interesting</p>
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		<title>By: Rocwood</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-29002</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocwood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 10:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well thanks for the reaction guys. Although the most of you claim that the goal is not valid and bring solid arguments for this I personally don&#039;t agree with this rule. While the ball is in the air and the keeper has no hands on it it should be considered in open play.

I mean, if a cross comes in and the keeper grabs the ball and after that loses it in the air and a player scores before the ball touches the ground, will that goal also be disallowed?

So although that Van Persie goal is not valid, I consider that the decision is not logic. The only true problem might be that the Dutch striker did not keep the distance to allow the goalie to clear the ball. But usually in this case goalies ask for a foul and the referees award it. City&#039;s keeper proceeded with the clearance in this case. Anyway it&#039;s an interesting debate! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well thanks for the reaction guys. Although the most of you claim that the goal is not valid and bring solid arguments for this I personally don&#8217;t agree with this rule. While the ball is in the air and the keeper has no hands on it it should be considered in open play.</p>
<p>I mean, if a cross comes in and the keeper grabs the ball and after that loses it in the air and a player scores before the ball touches the ground, will that goal also be disallowed?</p>
<p>So although that Van Persie goal is not valid, I consider that the decision is not logic. The only true problem might be that the Dutch striker did not keep the distance to allow the goalie to clear the ball. But usually in this case goalies ask for a foul and the referees award it. City&#8217;s keeper proceeded with the clearance in this case. Anyway it&#8217;s an interesting debate! <img src='http://www.livefootball.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-28994</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would disallow it as well.
 
Page 112 of the 2008-2009 Law book states clearly that &quot;A player must be penalised for playing in a dangerous manner if he kicks or attempts to kick the ball when the goalkeeper is in the process of releasing it&quot;.  USSF Advice to Referee (in paragraph 12.17 states that &quot;While players have a right to maintain a position acheved during the normal course of play, they may not try to block the goalkeepers movement while he or she is holding the ball or do anthing which hinders, interferes with, or blocks the goalkeeper who is throwing or punting the ball back into play.&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would disallow it as well.</p>
<p>Page 112 of the 2008-2009 Law book states clearly that &#8220;A player must be penalised for playing in a dangerous manner if he kicks or attempts to kick the ball when the goalkeeper is in the process of releasing it&#8221;.  USSF Advice to Referee (in paragraph 12.17 states that &#8220;While players have a right to maintain a position acheved during the normal course of play, they may not try to block the goalkeepers movement while he or she is holding the ball or do anthing which hinders, interferes with, or blocks the goalkeeper who is throwing or punting the ball back into play.&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: dick</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-28988</link>
		<dc:creator>dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 02:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t think that it&#039;s allowed to get right in front of the goalkeeper and try to steal the ball, i think you have to be a certain distance away, but im not sure, the goal is kinda valid if you ask me</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s allowed to get right in front of the goalkeeper and try to steal the ball, i think you have to be a certain distance away, but im not sure, the goal is kinda valid if you ask me</p>
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		<title>By: si</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-28944</link>
		<dc:creator>si</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thankfully it didn&#039;t count :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankfully it didn&#8217;t count <img src='http://www.livefootball.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: redevil7</title>
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		<dc:creator>redevil7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 21:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with Nixxy, the rule clearly states that so long as the ball hasn&#039;t hit the ground whilst in the keeper&#039;s possession, a player is not supposed to knick it from him. Someone recall a certain Thierry Henry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Nixxy, the rule clearly states that so long as the ball hasn&#8217;t hit the ground whilst in the keeper&#8217;s possession, a player is not supposed to knick it from him. Someone recall a certain Thierry Henry?</p>
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		<title>By: Gunner27</title>
		<link>http://www.livefootball.net/2008/11/24/why-was-robin-van-persies-goal-disallowed/comment-page-1/#comment-28935</link>
		<dc:creator>Gunner27</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 20:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do remember TH14 doing the same thing against Blackburn and it was also ruled out because it was said that the ball is not in play until the keeper has completed his kick which I don&#039;t really understand, if the ball is there to be won even if it is by an interception on a goal kick as long as it is not in the keepers hands i can&#039;t see anything wrong with it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do remember TH14 doing the same thing against Blackburn and it was also ruled out because it was said that the ball is not in play until the keeper has completed his kick which I don&#8217;t really understand, if the ball is there to be won even if it is by an interception on a goal kick as long as it is not in the keepers hands i can&#8217;t see anything wrong with it.</p>
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